Re: [-empyre-] Is it digital art?

[Professor Paul Walton <mediaptyltd@ozemail.com.au>]

on 27/7/02 1:44 AM, Sandra Joe Shelton at sandshell451@greencafe.com wrote:

> on 7/26/02 6:25 AM, Millie Niss at men2@columbia.edu wrote:
> 
 if art were about technology then it would be reduced to politics of big
science, art is driven by imagination, therefore interactivity is not per se
digital art, nor is collage, but both could be, the difference between
essentialism and freedom is what art can teach us.

Paul



>> Isn't this traditional (ie non digital) collage?  It was very popular with
>> some avant-garde (revolutionaries in various schools) painters in the 30s I
>> think (also at other times).  There were also collages in which 3
>> dimensional objects were glued to paper, and you can't scan and digitize
>> those without losing too much.
>> 
>> I like the collage (or cut-up when it's used with words) technique with
>> newspaper headlines.  You cut them up, but un units bigger than individual
>> words, leaving some intact and some individual words.  Then you rearrange
>> them on a sheet and you can turn a boring day into a truly scary scenario,
>> which doesn't sound like news at all but like something else.  I did one
>> with a friend a while ago, but I didn't scaen it in (did it on a big sheet
>> and had it photographically reduced).  Maybe I'll do what you are propsing
>> to do and enhance it digitally.  I actually wanted it to reatin the collage
>> look, and was disappointed thet the photcopy showed only the words and not
>> the shapes of the cutouts and the wrinkles on the newsprint.
>> 
>> I don't know if your project is digital art.  You are doing the final steps
>> in a digital art environment, but the most creative part is not digital
>> (finding and placing the images).  I wonder how your collage will look
>> different from the "Photoshop collages" people do where they take digital
>> images and paste them together.  One difference will be that you can't have
>> transpartency and the belending modes you get in Photoshop, but hopefully,
>> your images will somehow look more "real"...
>> 
>> Millie
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: empyre-admin@imap.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>> [mailto:empyre-admin@imap.cofa.unsw.edu.au]On Behalf Of Mario Lima
>> Cavalcanti
>> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 6:50 AM
>> To: empyre@imap.cofa.unsw.edu.au
>> Subject: [-empyre-] Is it digital art?
>> 
>> 
>> Hi, group
>> 
>> I'm envolved on a new art project. Briefing: cut and paste on a paper
>> various and
>> different green images (ex: green apple pictures, clover images, cell phone
>> green display
>> pictures etc). After fill the paper with this images, we will
>> scan/digitalize this, apply
>> some digital effects and print/produce a painting. Visually it will become
>> beautyfull.
>> 
>> But my question is: can this process or any part of this process be
>> called Digital
>> Art? If can't, what kind of art is this?
>> 
>> Best,
>> 
>> ==========================================
>> Mario Lima Cavalcanti
>> Diretor de conteúdo - Jornalistas da Web
>> mario@jornalistasdaweb.com.br
>> http://www.jornalistasdaweb.com.br
>> ==========================================
>> 
>> Jornalistas da Web. De olho no jornalismo online.
>> 
>> 
>> 
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> if the result  evokes a response in your aesthetic receptors iwould feel it
> was art iwould play with the arrangement until there is a response digitally
> this is more possible after you scan it
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